Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700 (2024)

Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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    Hi All,

    My hydraulic fluid is pretty low - is it typical to "lose" fluid over time, does it kindof cook away? (this 1983 Ford 1700 is new to me so I don't know it intimately yet). Anyhow, manual calls for M2C-134A and Tractor Supply doesn't have it. Can't find any on eBay...

    Thoughts?

    Thank you!

    Jay

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      Most quality transhydraulic fluids will meet the Ford Spec M2c-134A and I believe the latest is M2c-134D and is backward compatible. Read the label on the container.
      The fluid disn't "cook off";it leaks out and it also colllects water via condensation espeicially if you don't use it often and/or operate for long periods of time to cause it to get warm and evaporate off the condensation.

      Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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        I have used Mystick brand from TSC for the last 7 years in my Ford 1700. I did not find any ill effect as the result. Dipstick inspection of the after 250 hrs looks pretty good.

        JC,

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          Thanks all. TSC I would assume is Tractor Supply...?

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            jpilk99 said:

            Thanks all. TSC I would assume is Tractor Supply...?

            Yes. Make sure to read the back of the container to verify it meets M2C-134A.

            JC,

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              Remember that the last letter is a revision. That means that 134b meets 134a specs. A lot of the generic UTF's that I have seen are 134b or 134c which is fine for you.

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                i know i've used tsc and walmart UTF's for years now. never a problem.

                DO read the label. etc.

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                  Phillips PowerTran Fluid is available in two viscosity grades for use over a wide range of temperatures. The heavier viscosity grade is suitable for year-round use in most climates, whereas the “Low Viscosity” grade is recommended for use in cold climates where a John Deere J20D fluid is specified.
                  Do a Google search for Phillips PowerTran Fluid in a pdf file and the info. will really help you .

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                      mostly_gas said:

                      Remember that the last letter is a revision. That means that 134b meets 134a specs. A lot of the generic UTF's that I have seen are 134b or 134c which is fine for you.

                      Hi. I'm going back to do some Maintenance/Service on my wonderful 1983 Ford 1700 and find myself back to being curious about "Hydraulic System Oil" that the manual talks about. It certainly says I should get the M2C-134(x) ...which I am not finding, where the "x" is either A, B, C, D etc. and knowing they're backwards compatible. But the manual also says, "Should the recommended engine oil not be readily available, use a commercial oil as shown in the following chart" and that chart goes on to list SAE 10W30, 10W40 for Year Around. Or SAE 10W... and a few other options given the temperatures outside...

                      But my question/concern is: I am planning to do as much maintenance as possible - and going to work on the front differential, front axle, rear axle etc... So can I just put SAE 10W30 in all those places? Because it looks like the M2C-134A is what they say to use in them...?

                      Thanks. Hope i'm not being overly exacting here - just don't want to hurt my machine. Thanks!

                      Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700 (2024)

                      FAQs

                      What is the oil equivalent to M2C134D? ›

                      Our other choice is "Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid". This is a pig of a different grunt. It is a 10W20 oil (much thinner, and multigrade) which is "recommended" for use in place of the Ford M2C134D, as well as a whole list of other manufacturers specifications.

                      Is premium universal tractor fluid the same as hydraulic fluid? ›

                      One simple answer would be that tractor fluids and hydraulic oils are products that have different formulations and are for different purposes. They are designed for applications in different tractor and heavy-duty machinery components.

                      What type of hydraulic oil does a Ford tractor use? ›

                      use C type hydraulic oil.

                      Can I use any hydraulic oil in my tractor? ›

                      There are many different types of hydraulic fluid, each with their own properties and characteristics. Your machine's manufacturer will specify which type to use, based on its intended purpose and the type of system it has inside.

                      What hydraulic oil is equivalent to? ›

                      "It is a common practice in the construction and mining industries to use engine oil SAE 10, SAE 20 or SAE 30 with the lowest API rating as a substitute for hydraulic oil ISO 32, ISO 46 or ISO 68, respectively for hydraulic systems of heavy equipment.

                      What kind of hydraulic oil does a Massey Ferguson take? ›

                      AGCO PARTS HYDRAULIC OIL 46 is designed specifically for hydraulic systems of Fendt, Challenger, Massey Ferguson, and Valtra machinery. AGCO PARTS HYDRAULIC OIL 46 is suitable for use in a variety of hydraulic systems of industrial equipment.

                      Is it OK to mix different hydraulic fluids? ›

                      As far as possible, it is always best to avoid mixing different hydraulic fluids. This is because the technical properties could be spoiled by chemical reactions between different additives.

                      Can I use synthetic motor oil for hydraulic fluid? ›

                      The short answer is no, users should not use engine oil to replace hydraulic, as these are two very different kinds of lubricants – each designed for a specific role and possessing different chemical compositions.

                      Is tractor transmission oil the same as hydraulic oil? ›

                      Interestingly, hydraulic fluids for tractors are NOT the same as other hydraulic oils. Tractor hydraulic fluids are specially designed to fulfill multiple functions such as transmissions and differentials, final drives, hydraulics, power steering, wet brakes, and more.

                      Is there a difference between hydraulic fluid in hydraulic oil? ›

                      In summary, hydraulic oil is a type of hydraulic fluid. However, unlike hydraulic oils, hydraulic fluids are used in automatic transmissions and are an alternative to hydraulic oil when flammability is a potential issue involved in operating environments.

                      What grade is universal tractor hydraulic fluid? ›

                      Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid is a SAE viscosity grade 10W-30 and meets API GL-4 gear oil specifications.

                      What oils do you use for the hydraulic system on a Kubota tractor? ›

                      Kubota recommends using its own Super UDT-2 hydraulic fluid, a synthetic blend hydraulic fluid designed specifically for their tractors.

                      What happens if you put the wrong hydraulic fluid in a tractor? ›

                      Failure to use the correct proper oil will not only decrease the efficiency and performance of the hydraulic system, but it can also seriously shorten the life of the system and the many components that comprise it.

                      What is a substitute for hydraulic fluid in a tractor? ›

                      Water: Water has low compressibility, making it an excellent hydraulic fluid substitute. Plus, it has unrivaled fire-resistance properties.

                      What does UDT mean in hydraulic fluid? ›

                      UDT stands for Universal Dynamic Tractor Fluid and is the standard oil option for Kubota tractors.

                      What is Kubota Super UDT fluid? ›

                      The Kubota UDT and Super UDT are multi-purpose, all-weather hydraulic types of engine oil. They present a perfect solution for your Kubota model, especially if you don't want to worry too much about tractor maintenance since they do the heavy lifting.

                      What is SAE 10 hydraulic oil equivalent to? ›

                      SAE-to-ISO Oil Conversion Chart
                      SAEISO/AW
                      10W32
                      15W or 20W46
                      20W68
                      30W100
                      Jul 17, 2024

                      What is the equivalent of mobil dte 13? ›

                      Mobil DTE 13M (now Mobil DTE 10 Excel 32) is or was manufactured by Mobil Oil Corporation.

                      What is equivalent to AW 46 hydraulic oil? ›

                      Tractor Supply also has hydraulic fluid in smaller containers. To over simplify AW 32 is like 10w motor oil and AW 46 is like 20w motor oil.

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